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welcome welcome to my awesome Friday

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evening your listen to me Heidi Hollis

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the Outlander so welcome to the show

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everybody

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oh this is gonna be a lot of fun tonight

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you guys you know you know sometimes I

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get these really interesting people on

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you're gonna really enjoy this one

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tonight I am gonna tell you what this

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show is about because if you are new to

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me you need to be informed this show is

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about bringing outlandish and

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interesting topics to the forefront from

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alien angels ghosts demons holy

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encounters shadow people to Bigfoot to

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the outlandish I always say if it's

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weird we're here and now you are too so

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you are among friends

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if you do not know who I am well how

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dare you personally I'm someone who has

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been there seeing that experienced it

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freaked out found some answers wrote

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about it got over it and now I'm hoping

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to help others do the same darn thing

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and understand this kooky cookie fun

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freaky world of ours I dare you to go to

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my main website I don't even know if my

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parents have seen it in recent years

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Heidi Hollis calm you're gonna find

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things there that are just man boy just

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I'm going and I have YouTube channel

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Facebook Twitter all that stuff is up

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there you can find me on Facebook and

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Twitter just put a 1 so at 1 Heidi

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Hollis that literally the number one and

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you will find me and I want to tell you

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guys how you hear this program because I

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think it's pretty darn awesome and

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honestly most you guys do take advantage

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of the inception radio network app what

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is that well it's just an app you hear

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this so live you can hear my recorded

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shows and yeah all that good stuff this

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is considered a live broadcast show you

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will say oh you're podcasting like now

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it's considered live broadcasts we just

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happen to record it so you can listen to

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it later so isn't that fantastic and

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most of you do seem to listen through

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the app but we've got gosh we're on I

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heart were everywhere we're everywhere

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so you can check us out so many

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and probably the easiest way to listen

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to us if you're old school especially or

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if your internet sucks you can just dial

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a number and just listen put it on

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seven zero eight eight eight eight and I

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questions to inception radio network but

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again I realize that let's see you guys

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you're not listening to this show live

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let's just fine no I forgive you

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so uh so you might not hear a whole lot

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of calls that come in live because

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people like to listen on their own darn

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time which is fine again so anywho and

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oh it's gonna go into the inception

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radio network chat room that is I are in

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chat comm and there's some folks in

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there right now and I see B and I see

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Bonnie MJ whoa MJ that's a stranger if I

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ever heard a name okay so that's really

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so yeah it's you know we got a lot of

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different things going on here at

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inception radio network and my goodness

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I don't know if there's any orifice they

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have not reached into okay that was bad

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oh god I got a dry spot

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so anyways tonight because I do have yes

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joining me we're going to forego the

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outlandish corner and that is where I

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answer your emails and your comments and

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whatnot to whatever it is that you're

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experiencing out there out of the

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ordinary that I lend some level-headed

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advice to without being a psychic or a

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guru but I do sprinkle some Jesus on it

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which is uh yeah that's that's a given

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so anywho you can write me with your

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experiences I don't care what it is if

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Bigfoot does go into your trash every

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night and you're just sick of it look

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what with some Bigfoot repellent spray I

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don't know but we'll think of something

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and so we'll do it together

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shadow people go with aliens anything

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and everything out of the ordinary just

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write me at dusk

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das Outlander at gmail.com or go to my

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facebook page at 1:00 Heidi Hollis put a

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1 in front of my name and yeah well I

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will get down to it groovy and I will

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address it so anyways I am going to get

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on to introducing whom I guess will be

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this evening Kenneth and Farrah Rose

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deal they are a rare husband-and-wife

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team with a combined 80 plus years

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they're both a hundred and fifty years

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old I was kidding your sexual experience

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and related studies and spiritual

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warfare counselors filled investigators

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educators Catholic apologists and

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evangelists or as the mainstream public

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refers to them as religious

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demonologists taking on all cases of

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infestation oppression possession from

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investigation phase to the clues of the

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case everybody

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round of applause for Kenneth affero

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deal come aboard guys how the heck are

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you two doing this evening freezing our

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frigid little toesies off

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oh it's cold where you're at huh well

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degrees okay at least we're not getting

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the snow Wow we're yeah we're not in the

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Bible Belt we are in the Bible buckle

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Springfield Missouri Springfield nice

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yeah we're a city of the United States

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that has the most number of churches per

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capita than anywhere in the world

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mass you know that's not our all of our

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parishes but it's kind of funny that you

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know they're all five minutes from me

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promise oh my goodness so you two have

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both been dabbling in this stuff for a

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long time has it always been as a team

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no there's only since we met each other

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and immediately we started talking about

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that topic which is refreshing because

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can't talk to anybody about it

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especially a beautiful woman how long

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ago did did you join forces I should ask

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years ago eight you said yes okay all

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right so well gosh what are the odds of

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that that you too well cross paths I

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mean didn't you cover one half of the

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state she had the other and what you

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just met and go this is meant to be

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how'd this happen

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it's kind of crazy actually I covered

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New Mexico California Washington Texas

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and Michigan before meeting him yeah

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yeah he was all over the place he was

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originally from st. Louis and we ended

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up meeting on one of those quirky little

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Christian dating sites accidentally

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looking for a friend because we were

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bored it was Halloween and you know it

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was just one of those things and it's

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like kismet he couldn't shut up and I

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mind blowing that are into these topics

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and it's a lonely drudging difficult

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thing to do because they're always

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working it alone the wife doesn't get it

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or the husband doesn't get this and

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that's really that's kind of cool that

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you two have merged the way that you

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have that's awesome it's bizarre Heidi

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it's really bizarre thirty people that

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we meet especially the members of the

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opposite sex have difficulty you know in

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relationships and related on and it's

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very very difficult to be able to invest

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in so many other people beside

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yourselves and then still have something

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left for your family and in your main

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relationship etc etc so you know can

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meeting me he couldn't believe that I've

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been through this stuff he was you know

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just like what and I was like oh yeah

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you've done that oh boy was really it

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was almost like we both wrote the same

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Exorcist movie except in different

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languages that we were like comparing

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notes going yet yeah yeah sure yeah okay

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hold it do you guys step on each other's

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toes because if you're both used to

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being the solo kind of center of

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attention you know

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was one soon to takeover versus the

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other I mean is that was that hard to

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get used to like hey I do that it kind

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of like okay you know I I should let Ken

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talk for a little bit but I think it's

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easier to understand that for whatever

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reason Heidi especially you know how you

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do radio you understand that there's

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give-and-take well right we both can't

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specify you know okay well I'm gonna

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take I'm gonna take the land I'm gonna

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go you know check out the property okay

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well I'm gonna go into the Attic

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we both have areas of expertise where we

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just were just like little pointers it's

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like we're little dogs that you turn

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loose on on the birds and it's like you

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know I might take the tail-end he'll

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take the front or I'm gonna stick right

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in the middle of the pack and he's going

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to hop up in the tree we both are like

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pointers when we're set in a place or

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with people so we both have have our

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ways of just going to where the need is

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to find out what's going on I think that

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pretty much sums it up what do you think

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can one that's sick and laying in bed

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okay so it what are your different

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expertise I sell you visualizing ken

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with his little pointy tail like a

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little you know a little pointer out in

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the field Gale blowing in the wind what

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is it that you seem to excel at when you

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have these these demon like cases coming

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at you yeah I was gonna say oh yeah I

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mean even on the other things that we do

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you know like art wherever an artist but

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we're different artists so we complement

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each other with the things I do or can

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do and music you know it's like we're

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both singers but I guess that brings to

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the broadcast voice too and and that

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you know how the difference between men

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and women is men will like rely on a gut

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feeling or a tell to use a logical

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choice and and they on that part because

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we go in like a police investigation

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that will always be there

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we both do the thing where we rely in

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and you know we don't have pre-canned

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questions when we interview people for

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example and the reason is is because one

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question gives to another sometimes it's

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from an impression of something you see

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something here but you just go you go

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with the flow you keep going and then

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when that one question prompts the other

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one we ask a question we get at the

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truth quicker if I just did pre-canned

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questions I'd be sitting here all day

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like that guy you know with the litmus

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test and you know I'm sure it would be

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really boring like being an IRS auditor

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but it's kind of like the crime scene

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investigation let's ask questions that

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are more relevant to the person in the

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case and then when you're trying to get

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it to true with you you don't ask the

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pre-canned stop just because you want to

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fill out your paperwork and go home and

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so the you know I guess the difference

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between men and women logical side you

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can say I get some sort of you know kind

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of a backdrop of going to place and

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making a personal reference I'm trying

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to think of how much okay let me let me

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let me see if I can help you here honey

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right hi let's just take the sides

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intuitive or whatever it's like just a

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sample visitation of reference you know

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from one of the local teams or something

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that most the time Heidi sad but true we

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are called in because lots of solutions

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have been tried nothing's been working

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and the people are kind of like dogs

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chasing their tails are just like you

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know we we don't know what's going on

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you know we're trying to figure out

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what's going on nothing's working etc

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etc come out and help us so after we

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start with initial intake and Ken's

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usually pretty good at that on the phone

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I'm really not one for initial intakes

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because I don't want to talk to people I

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want to jump in their face so I can see

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and read and feel what's going on right

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then and there because sometimes a lot

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of times

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you get people on the phone they are

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very very wonderful charmers and you

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know they could only make you believe

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that the sun's out and you know the

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temperature is fine and hop in your

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bikini and go in your backyard nobody's

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looking and you find out you know the

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neighbors are watching it's snowing and

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you're an idiot if they could paint a

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nice picture for you and it's like

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that's not true so so are you telling me

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that you you have a psychic like

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intuition no no no no out I'm the I'm

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the little hound he has on a leash I'm a

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bloodhound and the truth I can smell it

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without stepping in it let me just put

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it that way okay the dark the dark crap

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yeah basically exactly it has it has a

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smell it has a footprint and we're done

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is more the logical reasoning type you

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know tearing away you know the structure

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of a story or or you know what's

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happened you know I'm heading right to

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the heart of the matter because I want

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to we want to get people to a place of

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peace as soon as possible and I want to

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sit there and waste anybody's time who's

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got it usually they're in pain and

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there's you know they're not sleeping in

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there are you finding these people how

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are they getting themselves into the

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trouble that you're finding most often

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like what are they how are they opening

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themselves up usually a cult magic

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trying trying to practice something and

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dabble with things that they just don't

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quite understand a couple people have

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actually been cursed by others and we're

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just kind of like you know what did I do

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to deserve this others you know I think

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the majority of it the majority of it is

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basically they're playing with things

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they shouldn't play with they're yeah

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feeding spirits and we have such a sad

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strange fascination with inviting

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anything that's supernatural if it's a

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cockroach it's moving around on a potato

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chip bag and they think it's a spirit

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they're running in the kitchen going oh

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give me a sign you're there

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shut your mouth and stop playing with it

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it's a cockroach kill it yeah yeah you

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know I am finding that people love to be

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scared they love to dabble in this stuff

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and just take a peek like they're bored

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with this reality and they just want

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something else to reach in at them and

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what darkness seems pretty easy to reach

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into I'm like oh my gosh okay

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why can't you look more to the light

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it's like yeah God's not gonna dance a

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jig for you you know to entertain you

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but now the devil might something evil

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may come along but why is that so

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inviting to people why do you think that

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is

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Oh morbid curiosity yeah that went when

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MTV was big everybody wanted that MTV

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experience so I made a lot of money and

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friends etc any 80s because they we

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delivered what they wanted and maybe

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before that or you know halfway through

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90s and started tapering off that desire

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because when they watched all these you

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know top 20 MTV videos and most of them

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were concerts and it were so stereotyped

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you always you know show it to drummer

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you know the hair bands

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he was twirling drumsticks looking at

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the camera sticking his tongue out

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sometimes then you get that Steve Vai

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licking the guitar neck you know what I

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mean so now we have haunted stories that

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make wow I want some of that this is

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exciting so it's it's like they're porn

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I think it's sad it's it's really sad

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you know I have six books published only

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two of them are on Doc dark topics and

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that is all I get called about you know

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I started to bargain with some of these

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media people like okay you want me to

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talk about the demons well I'm gonna

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talk about my Jesus book first and then

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we'll get into the demons you know but

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you really do we have to like yeah cuz

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I'm really needing to talk about Jesus

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tonight so I mean it's mind blowing but

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it's it's sad to me that that is you

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know people love to be scared I just uh

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I get it but then I I don't want to get

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it you know I think it goes beyond being

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scared I think that there is I think

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that our

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our primitive desire just to be

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recognized and heard and in the world we

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live in today Heidi we we go for many

402
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years even unnoticed by our parents on

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pet unloved pond off you know in our in

404
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our out of lesson years when we need

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attention so desperately we go unpack

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unloved you know kind of misplaced and

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then we you know get into our 20s and

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into relationships you know loose

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relationships and we're still longing

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just to be recognized for who we really

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truly are as you know a gift you know

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God created a special to be a gift and

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we can't realize that because we don't

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even know that so we go looking for love

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in all the wrong places you know it

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haunted houses and dead the cemeteries

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and and magic and palm reading and you

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know Dungeons and Dragons we look for

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that essential part of ourselves it's

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just gonna wake up if just the magic

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would happen somebody would recognize us

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for who we truly are and this is gotta

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be it and I think that's where the love

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of being scared comes in because you

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know we want that we want that essential

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I I can't even describe it in one word

427
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but it is definitely a sense eight

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emotion driven here I mm-hmm it's a

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substance even by the dark side I don't

430
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know you belong they belong gentlemen

431
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you know I guess it's kind of like a

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drug know because I used to repossess

433
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cars and I love adrenaline I have the

434
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wonderful opportunity I got to chat with

435
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you with a friend of mine who it is

436
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Catholic I'm not Catholic and I wanted

437
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to understand a bit of your background

438
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as far as you know demonologists are

439
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usually priests how did you two come

440
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about to have the the backing that you

441
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do of the church nobody jump at that one

442
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huh well it's like you know well you

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know I'm just thinking about the first

444
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part of the statement

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actually demonologists art priests and

446
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in our faith you know basically the word

447
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demonologist is really know you know

448
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what i'm thinking along the lines of

449
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exorcist my apologies but yeah you're

450
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right you're right yes and only PhD

451
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because there is no real PhD or any

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horse in demonology although there's

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tons of people offering him out there is

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you know acquaintance of ours William

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Bradshaw who's a really wonderful guy to

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talk to

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he's out of st. Louis he's got a PhD and

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he was actually sent he's a Lutheran

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pastor he was actually sent overseas to

460
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that prestigious University it wasn't

461
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Cornwall it was in England and that's

462
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where he got his ph.d

463
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so in calling ourselves a demonologist

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Heidi that is the sum total of our

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experiences and it is not a title

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conferred on us by our church if

467
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anything we are looked on our church as

468
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our church's spiritual warfare

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counselors right right I know that she

470
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had some kind of like backing by a

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church I didn't know what it was called

472
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it's pardon me I don't recall it is but

473
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how did you go about getting that kind

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of backing to do what it what you guys

475
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do because you do go in the name of the

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Catholic Church to doing what you do

477
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correct actually what we do is we

478
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actually go and do what we do as

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Catholics because we are not even though

480
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we are professed Franciscans we are

481
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ordained ministers we are not in right

482
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so right we don't go there and say oh we

483
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have the full backing of the Catholic

484
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Church no we go as Catholics what we do

485
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is we do our own ministry on our own and

486
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if we need Catholic help we call

487
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Catholic priests Catholic nuns to come

488
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and help us oh yeah so they do there

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they are somebody that you confer with

490
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and counsel what next do what you do yes

491
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but it's essential because we can only

492
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go so far yeah you know we don't we

493
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can't go we're exorcists can go we don't

494
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not have that kind of authority in other

495
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words the Roman ritual that kind of

496
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thing I mean but you already know that

497
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you know that's kind of a mm-hmm

498
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now boo if if somebody does the job of a

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priest who's laity you know even a

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brother or you know our sister mm-hmm

501
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you know that's it's yeah it's

502
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definitely a no-no in any true Catholic

503
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Church I mean there's a lot with these

504
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kind of prefixes old new you know modern

505
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did you study with somebody to get the

506
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position that you do and the the

507
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authority that you do have is

508
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demonologists and the know-how how did

509
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you both gather the knowledge on these

510
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topics the conglomerate of validation

511
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from the peers and men you stay with

512
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your father you've got a heck of a

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library we have this huge family had a

514
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bunch of priests and nuns that had the

515
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Bishop of st. Louis back when my mother

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and father were just early twenties

517
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married them into Cathedral in st. Louis

518
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and I you know they were wondering if I

519
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should be a priest I went on some

520
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:07,919
retreats with my mom's a Monsignor

521
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cousin and my dad apparitions was

522
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another one and he loves his politics

523
00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:18,059
but demonology spiritual warfare and

524
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that stuff he did that until I wasn't

525
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about third grade and I guess they'd

526
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they backed off of it because it started

527
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affecting the family and and that was a

528
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primer but dad just kept reading about

529
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it and researching and can but he did

530
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not do the fieldwork

531
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ever since that third grade thing

532
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happened where he he a mom bowed out of

533
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it and so you know he accumulated all

534
00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:47,429
that but over the years you know it was

535
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just a personal interest because guess

536
00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:49,980
what you know when they were playing

537
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Ouija boards in the sixties and I was

538
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not in third grade in the sixties I

539
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don't think they yeah and with that and

540
00:24:02,000 --> 00:23:59,850
when they went to cases and they didn't

541
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:02,010
pray when they got home to get it off

542
00:24:05,539 --> 00:24:03,840
them like you do to break a curse I

543
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:05,549
think they brought something back

544
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:09,690
because of the torments that I had as a

545
00:24:13,399 --> 00:24:11,850
child let's you know and they gave me a

546
00:24:14,899 --> 00:24:13,409
st. Benedict Mellon you know didn't say

547
00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:14,909
this is gonna protect you from demons or

548
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:17,640
anything like that but I never really

549
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:19,289
had them get closer than about three

550
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:22,110
feet there's all in the family that's

551
00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:24,780
wild don't I'm uh

552
00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:27,060
you know like I'm just having waking

553
00:24:31,790 --> 00:24:28,260
nightmares you know they call night

554
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:31,800
terrors and that's awesome yeah so and

555
00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:33,810
that went on for such a long time you

556
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:36,870
know and I I still you know when I saw

557
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:38,250
that scene that we were two conjuring

558
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,900
for example and then that girl sits up

559
00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:41,520
in bed and she's just her eyes are

560
00:24:46,910 --> 00:24:45,240
frozen on the back door that was me so

561
00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:46,920
yeah remember you're saying at the very

562
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:48,390
beginning of the show it does sound like

563
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:50,610
a lot of people initially were victims

564
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:54,270
yeah we came through the Catholic I

565
00:25:00,020 --> 00:24:57,170
guess the background you know my dad

566
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,030
homeschooled us on the Catechism and

567
00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:02,940
those type of things to solidify it and

568
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:06,630
then we want to retire I my aunt's house

569
00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:09,600
which was by my grandmother's sisters

570
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:12,030
and they were like nuns they didn't join

571
00:25:16,910 --> 00:25:14,490
a convent for some reason but they took

572
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:16,920
us to church and tell you know told the

573
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,140
stories of saints then I'd move my

574
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:21,120
grandpa's lawn and he'd tell me stories

575
00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:26,550
and you know it's like good so the

576
00:25:30,850 --> 00:25:28,980
conversation was alive and well in the

577
00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:30,860
family Farrah how did you come about

578
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:33,240
gaining your knowledge on this and

579
00:25:39,230 --> 00:25:37,020
getting started thing Heidi is that you

580
00:25:41,270 --> 00:25:39,240
know I didn't realize that I was I never

581
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,280
called myself a demonologist until I met

582
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:44,400
Ken no idea that that was my specialty

583
00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:46,680
but I'm a demon magnet for whatever

584
00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:49,350
reason it's like you know and I say that

585
00:25:59,120 --> 00:25:55,670
jokingly and now yeah exactly there is

586
00:26:01,850 --> 00:25:59,130
there is no training for what I went

587
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:01,860
through I experienced I lived with the

588
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:04,590
serial murderer I survived

589
00:26:10,790 --> 00:26:07,110
oh yeah it didn't even know it until

590
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:10,800
afterwards it was really bizarre lore

591
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:12,510
yeah it was really really strange you

592
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,250
know you're you're hanging out with this

593
00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:16,320
guy because you know your boyfriend

594
00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:18,840
jilts you so you decide to get a job

595
00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:21,030
together and then you find out later

596
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:23,160
after you move away because you're kind

597
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:25,610
of like it was just really ridiculous ID

598
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:28,910
and people are terrified that story in

599
00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:32,310
the toilet I guess so you should share

600
00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:34,560
that yeah can we name names who was this

601
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:38,800
a free Dahmer I wasn't

602
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,950
yeah you're the wrong yeah I'm not gonna

603
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:43,600
say his last name to protect the

604
00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:46,570
innocent because he was returned to the

605
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,060
institution and he was returned to his

606
00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:52,720
meds his first names s - yeah really

607
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:54,430
seriously possession tell that story

608
00:27:00,240 --> 00:26:57,370
because it's relevant to the show topics

609
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:00,250
mostly so but you got it so ok being

610
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:04,300
exposed to ugly black things shadow

611
00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:07,330
people shadow animals shadow beings

612
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:09,790
since as far back as I can remember upon

613
00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:12,250
waking and sleeping with lights and

614
00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:14,740
being terrorized as a child went on to

615
00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:17,560
trying to help other kids in school that

616
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,480
were terrorized and trying to help them

617
00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:22,480
deal with it and help them be brave when

618
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:25,960
they went to bed and parents for the

619
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:28,990
most part including mine you're over

620
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:31,360
imaginative you're working yourself up

621
00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:35,230
you just want attention on and on and

622
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:37,750
you know come to find out there probably

623
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:39,790
were a lot of reasons we had visitors

624
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:41,770
and investigators in our house you know

625
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:43,030
that's what I call them because they

626
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:45,370
were lower level demons obviously not

627
00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:46,930
strong enough to do anything to hurt me

628
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,550
but obviously enough to frighten the

629
00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:50,580
hell out of me

630
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:53,830
you know the experiences in childhood

631
00:27:58,020 --> 00:27:55,750
went to trying to help other kids and

632
00:27:59,670 --> 00:27:58,030
there's a lot of kids I tried to help

633
00:28:01,380 --> 00:27:59,680
get away from their demons and I think a

634
00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:01,390
big one was getting away from a lot of

635
00:28:08,550 --> 00:28:04,620
the serious heavy metal music - the

636
00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:08,560
scrying and seances and yeah at the

637
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:10,270
death metal the really heavy-duty stuff

638
00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:14,710
- where I was I ended up in a city in

639
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:17,500
the Midwest because I had run away with

640
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:22,090
a man I fell in love with and my mom of

641
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:23,860
course disinherited me and she calls me

642
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:25,480
she's like no you're cut out of the will

643
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:27,190
it's like oh that's that's a joy I want

644
00:28:30,690 --> 00:28:29,170
to live you know on a ranch with horses

645
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:30,700
in the middle of nowhere no I'm a city

646
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:34,030
girl so very short you know he dumps me

647
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:36,610
I am hanging out with my girlfriend who

648
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,410
is like going to New Mexico are not New

649
00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:40,000
Mexico but Mexico because she's going to

650
00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:43,140
be selling timeshares hi you lucky her

651
00:28:47,490 --> 00:28:46,150
you know these are my friends you know

652
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:47,500
you can check in with them they'll help

653
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:49,330
you out keep an eye on you one of them

654
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,210
you know was a friend of a friend ones

655
00:28:53,820 --> 00:28:52,690
like

656
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:53,830
look you know I know you need a job and

657
00:28:56,970 --> 00:28:55,210
everything I'm kind of done with this

658
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:56,980
job won't we go apply for it together it

659
00:29:00,620 --> 00:28:58,330
was a good main tynin Staub kind of

660
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:00,630
thing so we shared an apartment and

661
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:04,450
didn't know that this guy was like

662
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:06,820
showing houses and sore condos and stuff

663
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,370
like that you know how it is yeah we're

664
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,200
coming up on our first break here in

665
00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:13,600
about 30 seconds so keep going okay well

666
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:16,060
30 seconds long story short this is

667
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:18,160
really low basically I'm gonna leave

668
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:19,300
more the cliffhanger

669
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:23,110
yeah the guy was giving me stolen

670
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:26,650
property and I didn't know it oh I was

671
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:28,990
following me in the middle of the night

672
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:30,490
and I didn't know it how did I know

673
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:32,380
because I saw shadows and I didn't know

674
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:34,930
it was him till what gosh the middle of

675
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:38,350
the night I woke up and he's on his

676
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:43,450
tiptoes of his fingers and knees and he

677
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:46,750
is slinking along the wall and his head

678
00:29:58,260 --> 00:29:50,970
is turned at this bizarre angle like

679
00:30:02,730 --> 00:29:58,270
yeah of my bedroom break you guys we'll

680
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:02,740
be right back welcome back everybody

681
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:04,570
you're listening to me Heidi how's the

682
00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:06,310
Outlander remembering always if it's

683
00:30:10,410 --> 00:30:08,380
weird we're here we'll give you advice

684
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:10,420
and insight on outlandish topics phone

685
00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:13,410
lines are always open 1 8 8 8 9 1 9

686
00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:15,940
23:55 but I know most of you guys are

687
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:18,700
listening to the irn app so that is just

688
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:21,490
fine and dandy we have Ken and Farah

689
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:23,770
deal the real deal is they better known

690
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:25,750
as and we are talking about their

691
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:30,400
demonology expertise and oh my goodness

692
00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:33,910
these they are the real team so how

693
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:35,980
convenient to get into that last name ha

694
00:30:42,140 --> 00:30:39,370
sure I know I couldn't like look in the

695
00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:42,150
Sears & Roebuck catalog and said hmm

696
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:44,920
since I chased ghosts but my specialty

697
00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:49,750
is goodness and you're known as

698
00:30:57,150 --> 00:30:52,870
religious demonologist real deal again

699
00:30:58,890 --> 00:30:57,160
see arty definition is very important

700
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:58,900
for people to understand is that you

701
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:00,480
know we come from a Christ

702
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Christocentric place that we accept

703
00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:06,130
everybody right where there

704
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:08,260
as they're at and help them the best

705
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,680
that we can get to a place of peace and

706
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:13,840
that the only piece that we know of is

707
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:17,650
Christ yes we are not afraid to talk

708
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:19,480
about Jesus on this show because I think

709
00:31:22,890 --> 00:31:21,070
he comes up every good show I don't care

710
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:22,900
what I'm talking about because it

711
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:24,940
there's no way I would be doing any of

712
00:31:36,090 --> 00:31:31,840
what I'm doing there are so many reasons

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719
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734
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entertaining see store for details had I

735
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:27,700
not had the encounters I had with him I

736
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:31,210
would not have had the nerve to take a

737
00:32:36,810 --> 00:32:34,060
step forward so everything it's because

738
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:36,820
of him so I get it I totally get it

739
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:39,760
there's a question in the chat room what

740
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:41,710
honey is asking do they protect

741
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:43,960
themselves when doing this and if they

742
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:45,850
do how do they do it well that's a

743
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,410
really good question you I'm gonna start

744
00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:49,120
do you want me to start honey I'll start

745
00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:51,550
and you can finish upstairs all right

746
00:32:55,230 --> 00:32:54,340
yeah we have a daily amount of practices

747
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:55,240
you know when it was a little bit of

748
00:32:59,070 --> 00:32:57,310
trial and error especially the more the

749
00:33:01,080 --> 00:32:59,080
severe cases especially when they're

750
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,090
back to back you can sometimes you have

751
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:04,720
to step it up and the default for us is

752
00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:09,070
you know Catholic Mass every day I go

753
00:33:14,250 --> 00:33:10,660
about five times a week including

754
00:33:16,050 --> 00:33:14,260
Sundays you know when I can which is

755
00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:16,060
most of the time because I drop my

756
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:18,190
daughter off at school and then I go in

757
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:19,260
Mass right after that

758
00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:22,050
come home and I work now we do two daily

759
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:23,550
rosary I know when I was younger I

760
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:25,770
notice how the Rosary does seem to bring

761
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:27,330
about a certain peace in the house less

762
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:29,130
you know arguing when otherwise should

763
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:31,410
be I say you know those type of things

764
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:33,810
and but it's definitely a one Padre Pio

765
00:33:39,970 --> 00:33:35,370
called it one of the most powerful

766
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:39,980
weapons in spiritual warfare okay

767
00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:42,570
specific prayers I'll go to the metals

768
00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:46,200
first I'll leave that part with the was

769
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,360
fair on the metals specific prayers is

770
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:51,120
prayers that when we go to a place we

771
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:53,490
say prayers before for protection and

772
00:33:58,010 --> 00:33:55,230
you know whether prayers or ones in

773
00:34:00,380 --> 00:33:58,020
particular that you use the other air

774
00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:00,390
protection and breaking curses prayers

775
00:34:04,790 --> 00:34:02,670
relating to afternoon our website yeah

776
00:34:08,990 --> 00:34:04,800
what's your on our website which site

777
00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:09,000
which one yet the the real deals dot-com

778
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:11,639
which uh one word correctly right and

779
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,010
it's got to be real like the camera film

780
00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:17,280
re e L because we're not re al we're not

781
00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:27,990
real mayonnaise we're real so it's the

782
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:33,000
real deals.com yeah don't find the

783
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:34,889
protection prayers right there because

784
00:34:38,649 --> 00:34:36,330
we have a number of prayers and we

785
00:34:41,419 --> 00:34:38,659
always refer those to people right away

786
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:41,429
because the power of prayer can never

787
00:34:45,830 --> 00:34:44,250
never be understated I put that on the

788
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:45,840
books a lot whenever people ask me to

789
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,490
sign them because that's one of the

790
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:49,440
things that is definitely concrete it's

791
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,730
like most the time people just started

792
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:51,960
praying enough that's it

793
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:54,510
yeah got to do it every day and I was so

794
00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:56,370
refreshed when I ran into father Chad

795
00:35:00,820 --> 00:34:58,680
River gir and not while we we do from

796
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:00,830
him earlier but not knew him personally

797
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:04,050
2015 he came here to speak and we helped

798
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:06,510
set it up and rerecord it on video and

799
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:09,000
we put it online and we met him and he

800
00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:13,260
said there that and he said earlier I

801
00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:14,670
think I'm one of his other things but he

802
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:17,700
repeated it he pretty much had to draft

803
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:19,710
his own prayer because he has an

804
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:22,890
exorcist an ordained priest he was

805
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:25,320
getting retaliation strikes you know

806
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:27,000
you're doing an exorcism and that sort

807
00:35:30,830 --> 00:35:28,680
of thing and you go back to your off you

808
00:35:32,570 --> 00:35:30,840
find your computer won't boot you know

809
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:32,580
this the series of unfortunate events

810
00:35:35,390 --> 00:35:33,119
that

811
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,400
some people might call or actually you

812
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:37,440
know symptoms of a curse and and they

813
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:39,089
hit people differently some people get

814
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,490
hit with physical ailments they'll get

815
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:43,200
like a series of kidney stones or get

816
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:45,630
fibromyalgia that doesn't go away they

817
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:46,920
don't get rid of that when they get that

818
00:35:51,739 --> 00:35:49,650
far or in the and in this case if it's a

819
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:51,749
financial where they can hurt you more

820
00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:53,670
they'll they'll mess with your

821
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:55,140
electronics or something or they'll just

822
00:35:58,339 --> 00:35:56,700
do tricks that doesn't permanently

823
00:36:00,410 --> 00:35:58,349
damage anything to some degree that

824
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:00,420
interferes with your day and then you

825
00:36:05,299 --> 00:36:02,190
know like making a car we're on start

826
00:36:07,789 --> 00:36:05,309
and then magically it starts to the

827
00:36:10,009 --> 00:36:07,799
category of a curse you know because

828
00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:10,019
it's a curse is essentially a demonic

829
00:36:13,309 --> 00:36:11,700
effect like if a witch puts as a curse

830
00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:13,319
on you it's not her doing and she's

831
00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:15,240
sending a demonic hitman to carry some

832
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:17,579
evil act out on you and sometimes got a

833
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:24,150
legion at me then my god because he said

834
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:25,680
that I pretty much have to do this

835
00:36:28,549 --> 00:36:27,210
prayer every day and I asked him oh hey

836
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:28,559
what prayer did you come up with I told

837
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:30,569
him I was saying which is on the site

838
00:36:34,730 --> 00:36:32,730
both of them I was saying a break and

839
00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:34,740
curses prayer that I drafted on my own

840
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:36,839
from an original prayer that was

841
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:39,359
specifically for breaking curses and I

842
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:41,460
say that one every day and Haven said

843
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,410
it's a counselor friend of mine he says

844
00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:45,599
oh I think you're going a little bit

845
00:36:49,609 --> 00:36:47,430
overboard there and when I heard father

846
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:49,619
Chad say that that was like so like

847
00:36:53,809 --> 00:36:51,720
alright an exorcist said that's all

848
00:36:55,549 --> 00:36:53,819
better how much were in this work we

849
00:36:58,339 --> 00:36:55,559
still get some validation like when I

850
00:37:03,799 --> 00:36:58,349
used to talk to you know John Zaffis and

851
00:37:05,479 --> 00:37:03,809
early 2000 late 1900s 1999 and sometimes

852
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:05,489
you have to talk to somebody who might

853
00:37:10,309 --> 00:37:07,049
have experienced something that's

854
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:10,319
extraordinarily not probable for the

855
00:37:16,759 --> 00:37:12,359
person who does a few cases but someone

856
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:16,769
has a higher Pope you know I'd actually

857
00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:20,460
written the Warrens some time ago when I

858
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,369
realized I you guys know I named the

859
00:37:28,309 --> 00:37:24,960
shadow people in the hat man phenomenon

860
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:28,319
and and when I was zeroing in on the hat

861
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:30,690
man what he was and who he was I was

862
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,400
like holy crap and I have thousands of

863
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:36,599
emails from all over the globe about

864
00:37:43,339 --> 00:37:39,089
this guy like I have got to reach out so

865
00:37:45,859 --> 00:37:43,349
I reached a reach out and Zaffis writes

866
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,869
me back and I was living in Australia at

867
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:46,800
the time and

868
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:48,330
and it's like well you know let's chat

869
00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:50,130
sometime it's like hope to make a phone

870
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:55,260
call overseas it was just so it was

871
00:37:58,850 --> 00:37:57,090
really nice of them to you know to take

872
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,860
the time but I never did get to have the

873
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:00,720
conversation with them because every

874
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:02,610
time I think that took a step forward to

875
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:05,490
delve into the topic I am not kidding

876
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:07,260
you friends family they're like Heidi

877
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:09,060
whatever you're looking into stop I

878
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:11,550
can't sleep I'm having bad luck and I'm

879
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:13,800
like it was they just knew I had to do

880
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:15,570
was something I was doing I'm like well

881
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:17,370
say a prayer I mean I'm trying to work

882
00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:21,780
here metals does help it st. Benedict

883
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:23,550
metal I mean we tell people put that on

884
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:27,510
if you want to try to well just say ease

885
00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:29,370
your sleep paralysis sometimes they put

886
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:30,780
it on they have to do other things to

887
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:32,910
get it off of them and then they and on

888
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:35,160
like closing the gate and the miraculous

889
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:37,530
mental especially if it might be sexual

890
00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:40,260
in nature because the purity of Mary and

891
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:43,140
her humility and you know or what to say

892
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:45,060
her bright white well we're talking

893
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:46,500
about what we do to protect ourselves

894
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:49,440
before we go someplace yeah but I were

895
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:51,690
thick metal in a miraculous metal and

896
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:54,690
Farrah okay but the other prayers are

897
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,760
all the prayers that I say to protect us

898
00:39:00,610 --> 00:38:58,920
on a daily level besides those practices

899
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:00,620
of you know weekly confessional at

900
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:03,090
sacramentals and sacraments they're on

901
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:06,900
our way so okay it's something that

902
00:39:13,130 --> 00:39:08,910
Farrah said that really has me thinking

903
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:13,140
okay I am just known for the shadow

904
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:15,510
people hat man thing and you said you

905
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:16,680
didn't feel like you're a demonologist

906
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:18,330
you didn't call yourself a demonologist

907
00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:21,090
prior to that I know what I'm dealing

908
00:39:25,340 --> 00:39:23,100
with demons this does that make you a

909
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:25,350
demonologist just because you're you're

910
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:27,180
kind of addressing the issue or the

911
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,960
topic or how's that work I put seven

912
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,880
types of demonologist and a blog up to

913
00:39:36,530 --> 00:39:34,800
there I try to define him because yeah

914
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,540
honestly in the church they don't use

915
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:38,400
the term demonologist I don't know how

916
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:40,710
Adam Bligh ended up with that title call

917
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:43,170
buddy like avoid that yeah they don't

918
00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:46,800
like that kind of a job oh they don't I

919
00:39:54,770 --> 00:39:51,120
don't know they was it it refuses the

920
00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:54,780
the baptism which you know dissolves the

921
00:39:59,720 --> 00:39:57,420
the curse of original sin and it takes

922
00:40:00,650 --> 00:39:59,730
the focus off of Christ when you say oh

923
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:00,660
well you know

924
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:02,190
that what you do you're a demonologist

925
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:05,640
you know instead you know we they like

926
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:07,140
the term you know spiritual warfare

927
00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:10,770
Christ ologists evangelism that sort of

928
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:12,329
thing because they prefer to keep the

929
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:15,140
focus on the positive and rightly so and

930
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:18,599
do in our lay ministry you know we want

931
00:40:23,569 --> 00:40:21,450
to basically you know we don't want to

932
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:23,579
catch the Dolphins and you know all the

933
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:25,349
little octopi we want to catch everybody

934
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:27,150
you know we want to throw the net far

935
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:29,970
and wide and we want to bring as many

936
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:32,130
people out of the out of the dark as we

937
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,170
can and if we get if we go around you

938
00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:40,020
know with with robes and serious faces

939
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:43,950
and you know speak you know lofty er

940
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:48,480
than you know so chances are that you

941
00:40:51,799 --> 00:40:49,859
know a lot of people are gonna think we

942
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,809
got our heads you know stuck in some

943
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:54,780
candelabra a little bit too high and oh

944
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:58,170
my gosh I hear you we can't we can't do

945
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:02,000
that you know I I am a barefoot strange

946
00:41:09,019 --> 00:41:06,569
tree-hugging Franciscan and I not you

947
00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:09,029
know I'm I know that God made me for a

948
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:11,420
specific person purpose and it's not

949
00:41:18,109 --> 00:41:15,720
it's just I I know that there's a reason

950
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:18,119
that we use the terminology we do and it

951
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:20,430
is basically Heidi to affect the

952
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,200
majority of people to let them know that

953
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:25,440
who we are we're real people yeah and

954
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:29,160
you know I anyone for anybody think that

955
00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:31,710
is highly important there there are too

956
00:41:38,359 --> 00:41:34,589
many people who once they start delving

957
00:41:41,029 --> 00:41:38,369
into these more spiritual topics they I

958
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:41,039
have a hard time talking to them because

959
00:41:46,279 --> 00:41:43,650
they do speak lofty and the TSA's and

960
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:46,289
thousand I'm like they turn even me off

961
00:41:50,329 --> 00:41:48,569
and like I'm a human being and I want to

962
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:50,339
present myself as such so people can

963
00:41:56,059 --> 00:41:53,490
relate to me and and be more apt to ask

964
00:41:58,130 --> 00:41:56,069
questions than to be turned off you know

965
00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:58,140
so it we have to present ourselves as as

966
00:42:03,200 --> 00:41:59,910
we are a good point

967
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:03,210
and I think that in our search for God

968
00:42:11,059 --> 00:42:06,630
sometimes that are our desire to you

969
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:11,069
know attain goals or a greater level of

970
00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:14,940
intent or holiness I think sometimes we

971
00:42:20,589 --> 00:42:18,420
separate ourselves from or I should say

972
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:20,599
we separate too much of ourselves

973
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:23,940
instead of embracing the self that God

974
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:28,260
gave us and I think that is where we

975
00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:31,260
have a disconnect and that God doesn't

976
00:42:37,339 --> 00:42:33,990
ask all of us to be choir boys or

977
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:37,349
priests or bishops or or we're each

978
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:40,170
created individually so that our

979
00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:49,819
different parts right we all can't we

980
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:53,099
all can't be Plato or Aristotle or rach

981
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:53,849
mulli

982
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:57,359
or or poder they are awesome I love them

983
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:01,920
you know you know question free this is

984
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:04,650
I've spoken to others who dabble in

985
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,970
these things that you both do and one

986
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:11,119
element that I learned is that

987
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:14,609
supposedly demons cannot read your mind

988
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:18,960
however once a person has been met with

989
00:43:24,140 --> 00:43:22,020
darkness they fear the day they will

990
00:43:26,329 --> 00:43:24,150
ever be met with it ever again and they

991
00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:26,339
think because they have such fear the

992
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,160
darkness will see that fear and come

993
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,160
back so which is it can the can demons

994
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:34,079
really reach upon and can your fear of

995
00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:36,359
them coming back actually attract them

996
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:39,539
back to you well let's let's take it one

997
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:40,410
step at a time

998
00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:44,940
no it is not possible it is not possible

999
00:43:51,529 --> 00:43:46,920
and it is not ready if you are

1000
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:51,539
unbaptized all right you are still a

1001
00:43:58,819 --> 00:43:55,049
child of Adam you are still a child of

1002
00:44:01,579 --> 00:43:58,829
Adam there is no way because you are

1003
00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:01,589
physical being born into this world

1004
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:04,980
your thoughts are between you and your

1005
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:07,380
Creator God exactly

1006
00:44:14,420 --> 00:44:11,010
even that can cross that barrier I tell

1007
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,430
people this I do a lot of concern about

1008
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:16,319
this most often in a one-set you know I

1009
00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:18,569
have something to fear that I'm out

1010
00:44:24,109 --> 00:44:21,660
pressed and they they give this illusion

1011
00:44:25,370 --> 00:44:24,119
whether your psychological battle of

1012
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:25,380
that they can read your mind by

1013
00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:27,000
inserting the thought because you know

1014
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,390
they're good

1015
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:29,760
temptation when they oppressed they can

1016
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:31,410
actually talk and they can hear moddable

1017
00:44:37,819 --> 00:44:34,230
so I mean most of times demonic activity

1018
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:37,829
is just louder and and bigger from

1019
00:44:43,009 --> 00:44:40,380
weight or you know even manifestations

1020
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:43,019
moving car keys to moving refrigerators

1021
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:45,420
yes they're impressive the one element

1022
00:44:50,750 --> 00:44:48,089
that I think kind of confuses people and

1023
00:44:53,269 --> 00:44:50,760
it makes them believe that their fear

1024
00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:53,279
will allow these things to come at them

1025
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:55,230
like they could hear their thoughts or

1026
00:44:59,779 --> 00:44:57,450
something is that they can give them

1027
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,789
nightmares so I think the nightmares

1028
00:45:04,279 --> 00:45:02,160
sometimes get them to feel like well

1029
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:04,289
they're inside my head already but

1030
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,849
nightmares are a whole different ball

1031
00:45:10,099 --> 00:45:08,400
game how do you guys classify nightmares

1032
00:45:15,049 --> 00:45:10,109
well we didn't finish answering the

1033
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:15,059
first the second part this is an

1034
00:45:19,099 --> 00:45:16,529
important topic to address you know

1035
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:19,109
people yeah the ball you know you you

1036
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:20,940
know I think you're you're the people

1037
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:22,079
that you're talking to definitely need

1038
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:24,329
to hear that demons cannot hear people's

1039
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:24,960
thoughts

1040
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:29,609
and fear okay we all have fears okay

1041
00:45:33,319 --> 00:45:31,650
does that attract demons no demons

1042
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:33,329
aren't necessarily interested in you

1043
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:34,980
especially you know if you're doing what

1044
00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:36,990
they want you either come from two

1045
00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:39,480
places you come from a place that you

1046
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:41,009
know what I'm gonna put God first in my

1047
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:43,170
life or you come from a place well I'm

1048
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:46,440
gonna take care of myself first don't

1049
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:48,210
you those two places that you come from

1050
00:45:51,319 --> 00:45:50,190
if you're putting yourself first and

1051
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:51,329
what you want and everything else and

1052
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,500
evens aren't gonna bother with you you

1053
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:54,000
re doing what you need to do to get you

1054
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:55,609
to hell

1055
00:46:02,299 --> 00:45:59,640
sorry it just it's a fact yes if you put

1056
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:02,309
God first you can be scared all you want

1057
00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:03,690
but your guardian angel is gonna stand

1058
00:46:08,259 --> 00:46:05,369
right there and be batting a thousand

1059
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:08,269
trying to keep them off you yep so

1060
00:46:13,849 --> 00:46:12,119
people you have nothing to fear nothing

1061
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:13,859
to fear whatsoever that battle already

1062
00:46:22,819 --> 00:46:17,220
got one fear does not attract them our

1063
00:46:24,849 --> 00:46:22,829
choices of sin attracts them faith of a

1064
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:24,859
mustard seed would smack them down

1065
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:27,660
exactly you got that right on a dream

1066
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:29,970
okay so let's go to the dream thingy but

1067
00:46:35,749 --> 00:46:33,390
the other dreams the we say that the

1068
00:46:38,299 --> 00:46:35,759
first thing that you experience when

1069
00:46:40,310 --> 00:46:38,309
you're beginning to be affected by a

1070
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:40,320
demonic spirit is

1071
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:42,300
dreams and anxiety both of those seem to

1072
00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:44,190
enter around the same time now let

1073
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:45,540
you're prone to other psychological

1074
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:47,400
ailments because they'll try to play

1075
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:50,610
those up like you'll go from mild

1076
00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:52,770
depression to more severe maybe you're

1077
00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:55,470
in suicidal as they progress so do so

1078
00:46:59,090 --> 00:46:57,300
does your psychological elements and the

1079
00:47:00,290 --> 00:46:59,100
same thing for even physical you might

1080
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:00,300
even have like we're talking earlier

1081
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:02,610
about new ones show up but that so we

1082
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:04,920
have to like watch our little meter of

1083
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:07,110
the person that starts to go down back

1084
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:09,930
down to zero and you know it's a we

1085
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:11,910
believe that the demonic was

1086
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:13,410
non-existent but it's always going to be

1087
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,240
shouting and roaring and or stuff and

1088
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:17,040
they're in the background when they make

1089
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:18,690
a mistake it's gonna come in like that

1090
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:21,240
rabbit that never left your garden

1091
00:47:25,450 --> 00:47:23,910
outside the fence and then that one day

1092
00:47:27,740 --> 00:47:25,460
you leave the gate open or you

1093
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:27,750
accidentally damage it with the more

1094
00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:29,190
something and then that's going to be

1095
00:47:35,570 --> 00:47:33,000
inside sort after that but yeah that the

1096
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:35,580
dreams and then indicating how to dreams

1097
00:47:40,250 --> 00:47:38,730
is another story and if you can tell if

1098
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:40,260
it's demonic or not but you think a lot

1099
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:42,570
of times the person who has them suspect

1100
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:44,910
they are without even us they we're

1101
00:47:49,490 --> 00:47:47,220
giving them some like tips and hints of

1102
00:47:56,570 --> 00:47:49,500
how you can tell us the demonics you

1103
00:47:59,180 --> 00:47:56,580
know induced dream yeah yeah I would get

1104
00:48:01,490 --> 00:47:59,190
these demonic dreams and and I wouldn't

1105
00:48:03,350 --> 00:48:01,500
back down I think sometimes have to get

1106
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:03,360
up to go to the bathroom and say I want

1107
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:12,620
coma patients if you research someone I

1108
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:14,010
like a near-death experience coma

1109
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,450
patient just like that movie with

1110
00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:18,240
Jennifer Lopez the cage then when it

1111
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:20,550
finally battled in one demon just like

1112
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:22,710
the buoyant sin that st. Louis exorcism

1113
00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:25,020
case that inspired the movie last thing

1114
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:26,430
he remembers whether there was a battle

1115
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:28,110
with the Saint Michael with a flaming

1116
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:30,570
sword you know he saw that and then he

1117
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:32,220
wakes up kind of like out of this state

1118
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:34,290
like he came out of a coma no memory of

1119
00:48:39,110 --> 00:48:36,750
all the things that he did from the time

1120
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:39,120
that he was initially possessed and

1121
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:41,550
that's dreams can be that way too you

1122
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:43,110
wake up you didn't dream anything and in

1123
00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:44,970
something jars your memory it's like oh

1124
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:46,590
my gosh I had a horrible dream about

1125
00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:47,910
that

1126
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:50,099
though you usually remember in the

1127
00:48:54,589 --> 00:48:51,630
morning and your memory starts to fade

1128
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,599
as time goes on but it's a fast danger

1129
00:48:58,099 --> 00:48:56,280
fascinating thing anyway so I liked

1130
00:49:01,250 --> 00:48:58,109
Freddy Kruger when I first came out oh

1131
00:49:03,609 --> 00:49:01,260
yeah have dreams too you know and then

1132
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:03,619
you win the battle and then you wake up

1133
00:49:06,799 --> 00:49:05,460
you know it's like how do you wake

1134
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:06,809
yourself up with your dream you couldn't

1135
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:08,490
exit whenever you're battling it you

1136
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:10,140
know there's a lot of questions of how

1137
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:12,420
they interact with a dream so I feel

1138
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:15,030
they try us I feel they try to find that

1139
00:49:19,789 --> 00:49:16,859
weakness in you sometimes with these

1140
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,799
dreams and it's like oh man you know the

1141
00:49:23,779 --> 00:49:22,079
ad for protection and this applies to is

1142
00:49:25,789 --> 00:49:23,789
a blessing your house so take the holy

1143
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:25,799
water use frankincense and myrrh bless

1144
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:30,210
your room thank you oh my gosh I think I

1145
00:49:36,589 --> 00:49:32,010
have to bring that up every show I am

1146
00:49:38,539 --> 00:49:36,599
not kidding you I'll tell you what the

1147
00:49:42,049 --> 00:49:38,549
number one thing that people can do to

1148
00:49:44,299 --> 00:49:42,059
protect themselves is fast once a week I

1149
00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:44,309
don't care if it's one meal if it's one

1150
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,369
day and you can fast food you can fast

1151
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:50,160
TV I fasted Facebook the other day for a

1152
00:50:00,500 --> 00:49:55,920
whole day out that must painful oh no

1153
00:50:03,529 --> 00:50:00,510
don't touch that phone you could choose

1154
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:03,539
two fast different things dare people to

1155
00:50:08,059 --> 00:50:06,690
fast their cell phones it's really

1156
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:08,069
difficult because especially if you

1157
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:10,260
don't have a house phone anymore or if

1158
00:50:14,089 --> 00:50:11,640
you have a business because it's like we

1159
00:50:16,279 --> 00:50:14,099
have like three businesses you know that

1160
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,289
we access through our our phones and you

1161
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:18,480
know our ministry and stuff so it's very

1162
00:50:24,380 --> 00:50:22,049
very difficult if it matters to you to

1163
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:24,390
deny your flesh and mortify something

1164
00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:26,609
that you desire that's pleasurable to

1165
00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:30,420
you it matters to God and that strikes

1166
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:34,920
out any demonic influence so people

1167
00:50:39,019 --> 00:50:37,020
learn how to fast and you'll kick them

1168
00:50:41,299 --> 00:50:39,029
out way quick that's right I was so

1169
00:50:43,099 --> 00:50:41,309
that's true everything he was having a

1170
00:50:45,529 --> 00:50:43,109
problem with you know succubus type

1171
00:50:47,029 --> 00:50:45,539
experiences and it's not working it's

1172
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:47,039
not working this guy's addicted to porn

1173
00:50:49,609 --> 00:50:48,480
too but that doesn't help but I said

1174
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:49,619
you're gonna have to go back to the

1175
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,529
essentials deny your flesh of these

1176
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:54,480
things that you know eating not to

1177
00:50:57,859 --> 00:50:55,980
starve himself to death but you know

1178
00:51:01,180 --> 00:50:57,869
don't be so quick to get your favorite

1179
00:51:03,220 --> 00:51:01,190
food you got to deny your self because

1180
00:51:05,770 --> 00:51:03,230
God expects you to deny yourself of sin

1181
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,780
of the flesh of that nature and then

1182
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:07,280
when you deny food something that's

1183
00:51:11,770 --> 00:51:10,010
essential to your daily living and you

1184
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:11,780
fast and you might get a pain of hunger

1185
00:51:17,260 --> 00:51:13,730
you know I don't know if you call it

1186
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:17,270
pain but it's not comfortable yeah it

1187
00:51:21,010 --> 00:51:19,490
does aids the fight and it's much been

1188
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:21,020
that Bible quote you might remember that

1189
00:51:24,940 --> 00:51:22,609
one care what was that one about this

1190
00:51:27,550 --> 00:51:24,950
one takes it fast when the Apostles

1191
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:27,560
couldn't catch a demon on something like

1192
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:32,480
that oh that one was for whatever reason

1193
00:51:36,609 --> 00:51:34,609
the Apostles and I'm sure Heidi's

1194
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:36,619
familiar with this the chapter in the

1195
00:51:40,210 --> 00:51:38,810
Bible I know it's not Luke it might be

1196
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,220
John where the disciples had been

1197
00:51:45,069 --> 00:51:42,319
working to cast a demon out of a young

1198
00:51:47,050 --> 00:51:45,079
girl and they finally ran to Jesus who

1199
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:47,060
of course is rolling his eyes and he

1200
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:48,710
says hey master we can't get this one

1201
00:51:53,620 --> 00:51:49,970
out we can't get this one out you got to

1202
00:51:57,370 --> 00:51:53,630
come help us and he says sometimes these

1203
00:52:03,309 --> 00:51:57,380
ones can only be cast out by fasting and

1204
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:03,319
praying oh yeah so you come upon you

1205
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:05,510
combine the power punch of just you know

1206
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,310
fasting and you know making a morning

1207
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:08,720
offering that you know God this is what

1208
00:52:12,130 --> 00:52:10,040
I'm going to do for you now if you

1209
00:52:17,170 --> 00:52:12,140
combine that with additional praying

1210
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:17,180
you've got a one-two punch so true so

1211
00:52:25,569 --> 00:52:22,460
true so I'm fascinated with there

1212
00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:25,579
there's so many people that getting in

1213
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:29,180
tomorrow that the daily cases that pop

1214
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:31,369
up a lot of people are having issues

1215
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,050
around 3 a.m. what the heck is the deal

1216
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:38,720
with the witching hour I mean this is a

1217
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:40,670
this is a real thing it just seems like

1218
00:52:43,390 --> 00:52:41,810
people will wake up they're having a

1219
00:52:45,550 --> 00:52:43,400
nightmare they hear something or

1220
00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:45,560
something's creeping up on them what

1221
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:48,380
might be that it's a mock it's a mockery

1222
00:52:52,930 --> 00:52:50,660
of the Trinity Satan loves it it's like

1223
00:52:54,609 --> 00:52:52,940
it's his funny time because he knows

1224
00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:54,619
that God created our bodies on a

1225
00:52:59,290 --> 00:52:57,140
specific circadian rhythm you know that

1226
00:53:01,660 --> 00:52:59,300
we would rise with the Sun and we would

1227
00:53:04,359 --> 00:53:01,670
settle down with the departing of the

1228
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:04,369
Sun and at our deepest opportunity for

1229
00:53:08,829 --> 00:53:06,710
our bodies to be healing and quiet and

1230
00:53:10,180 --> 00:53:08,839
our angels watching over our spirits the

1231
00:53:12,130 --> 00:53:10,190
little devils are like right there

1232
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:12,140
poking us going ha ha ha you thought you

1233
00:53:16,210 --> 00:53:14,450
could sleep and the 3 a.m.

1234
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:16,220
and that's when they go to scratch it

1235
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:19,490
it's three scratches mocking I even

1236
00:53:24,609 --> 00:53:22,250
thought that if we had that darkness and

1237
00:53:27,789 --> 00:53:24,619
that that I don't know what you call it

1238
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:27,799
plane or time zone and it didn't leave

1239
00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:30,410
that 3 a.m. I would think manifestation

1240
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:31,880
would just keep growing and growing and

1241
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,190
growing that's just a theory because we

1242
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:36,559
find out it seems like it seems that the

1243
00:53:40,930 --> 00:53:38,089
Sun is on the farthest side of the

1244
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,940
planet you know at that phase but you

1245
00:53:46,930 --> 00:53:43,040
know the the theology does seem to be

1246
00:53:48,849 --> 00:53:46,940
what to do with 3 a.m. is the hour as we

1247
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:48,859
figure that the veil between this world

1248
00:53:53,950 --> 00:53:51,770
and the hellish one is at its thinnest

1249
00:53:55,420 --> 00:53:53,960
3:00 p.m. that busted mother and a cat

1250
00:53:57,730 --> 00:53:55,430
you know an Orthodox Catholic old

1251
00:54:00,099 --> 00:53:57,740
teachings they said that she assumed

1252
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:00,109
into heaven at 3:00 p.m. Jesus died on

1253
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:02,720
the cross at 3:00 p.m. so you say hey

1254
00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:04,970
yeah Oh any assumes into heaven at 3:00

1255
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:07,460
p.m. you see there's a lot of prayers

1256
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:08,930
that you're supposed to say a 3 p.m.

1257
00:54:13,150 --> 00:54:10,490
chapel of divine mercy of you know

1258
00:54:16,030 --> 00:54:13,160
Sister Faustina in the early 1900s and

1259
00:54:17,799 --> 00:54:16,040
and some of those others but beyond so

1260
00:54:19,150 --> 00:54:17,809
we know there's a significance on the

1261
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:19,160
flip side and Satan likes to do

1262
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:21,170
opposites and that is the witching hour

1263
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,690
when the Satanists have their mass you

1264
00:54:27,579 --> 00:54:25,760
know the mass not a bid night you know

1265
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:27,589
that might that's only Celtic won or

1266
00:54:34,569 --> 00:54:30,559
something yeah doesn't it seem like

1267
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:34,579
there's an increase of evil things going

1268
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:38,690
amuck and I mean like purposely demonic

1269
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:40,609
entities I remember a couple of years

1270
00:54:47,260 --> 00:54:44,200
ago hey I live in Chicago and there is a

1271
00:54:49,569 --> 00:54:47,270
newspaper article that said the Catholic

1272
00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:49,579
Church was having an emergency training

1273
00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:53,630
of Exorcist because they were so overrun

1274
00:54:59,549 --> 00:54:56,920
and overwhelmed with the amount of calls

1275
00:55:02,980 --> 00:54:59,559
have you noticed this in flex as well

1276
00:55:05,650 --> 00:55:02,990
I'd say and I think it's more than just

1277
00:55:09,789 --> 00:55:05,660
an influx my dear what it is is I think

1278
00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:09,799
that because of the ability for people

1279
00:55:15,490 --> 00:55:11,630
to get their hands on occult items

1280
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:15,500
cursed objects and the fascination with

1281
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:18,319
all things occult you know every kind of

1282
00:55:25,539 --> 00:55:22,730
magic it's so easy for people to invite

1283
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:25,549
sin in and their choices lead them to

1284
00:55:30,279 --> 00:55:28,400
attachments and they don't they

1285
00:55:31,809 --> 00:55:30,289
trust a friend they immediately call the

1286
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:31,819
Catholic Church the Catholic Church is

1287
00:55:36,819 --> 00:55:35,450
like well okay so you're Methodist let's

1288
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:36,829
talk to your pastor but I don't want to

1289
00:55:43,029 --> 00:55:39,950
talk to him all right yes sir it's like

1290
00:55:44,799 --> 00:55:43,039
I don't want him knowing yeah we gotta

1291
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,809
get to our next break you guys are

1292
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:45,920
listening to me Heidi how's the

1293
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,299
welcome back everybody you're listening

1294
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,799
to me Heidi how's the Outlander and I

1295
00:56:00,400 --> 00:55:57,200
have Kennison Farah deal the real deals

1296
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:00,410
here go to the real deals calm that's

1297
00:56:06,970 --> 00:56:03,529
double e for both words and we're just

1298
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:06,980
chatting it up just to in the fat good

1299
00:56:12,490 --> 00:56:10,250
ol time and I forget where did we leave

1300
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,500
off but I wanted to hold it there's a

1301
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,200
question here okay oh people want people

1302
00:56:20,049 --> 00:56:17,119
want to hear some of your creepy stories

1303
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:20,059
which I get it so you've come across

1304
00:56:29,049 --> 00:56:24,710
people who have been possessed it so

1305
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:29,059
tell us of some of these cases that you

1306
00:56:34,059 --> 00:56:30,319
guys have come across that have been the

1307
00:56:35,470 --> 00:56:34,069
most uh I don't know difficult that's

1308
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:35,480
not what the more recent ones sir I

1309
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:37,250
guess I probably more appropriate since

1310
00:56:40,930 --> 00:56:37,730
we've done this

1311
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:40,940
well tell you the truth that it's easy

1312
00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:43,520
to talk about cases that because there's

1313
00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:46,700
so many of them Heidi where you know

1314
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:50,510
people are in shock to realize because

1315
00:56:55,870 --> 00:56:53,440
what they see on TV isn't real

1316
00:56:59,019 --> 00:56:55,880
whether they're looking at Linda Blair

1317
00:57:03,640 --> 00:56:59,029
spewing pea soup out of her nose or her

1318
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:03,650
head it's not real know right pepper

1319
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:06,710
should they walk into Walmart I'm be

1320
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:07,730
seeing they're playing on their little

1321
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:09,680
cell phone and the person in front of

1322
00:57:14,620 --> 00:57:12,770
them head start switching and in just

1323
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,630
you know going all over the place and

1324
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:15,920
they're thinking okay somebody's doing

1325
00:57:20,140 --> 00:57:17,510
the Macarena well I need to get out of

1326
00:57:22,510 --> 00:57:20,150
here get out of my line and also start

1327
00:57:24,130 --> 00:57:22,520
frothing on the ground and look up at

1328
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,140
them and speak in some kind of language

1329
00:57:29,529 --> 00:57:26,720
they've never heard that would you know

1330
00:57:31,450 --> 00:57:29,539
gets everybody to run screaming oh yeah

1331
00:57:34,210 --> 00:57:31,460
it's not the norm

1332
00:57:37,269 --> 00:57:34,220
no and consequently you know the subject

1333
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:37,279
of you know people that are possessed is

1334
00:57:42,170 --> 00:57:40,640
so sensitive and it is held so close to

1335
00:57:45,860 --> 00:57:42,180
the vest by the Catholic Church

1336
00:57:48,430 --> 00:57:45,870
you know they really don't they don't

1337
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:48,440
want it sensationalized because it's not

1338
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:51,120
it's not like it's not like a popcorn

1339
00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:53,910
movie like Star Wars you know where

1340
00:57:59,300 --> 00:57:55,860
everybody goes oh come on let's go look

1341
00:58:01,610 --> 00:57:59,310
at the MK ULTRA person or you know the

1342
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:01,620
birth in the gym all of a sudden just

1343
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:04,020
Timothy Leary experiment I know you know

1344
00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:05,700
let's just let's go look at Jeffrey

1345
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Dahmer in a cage yeah not so you know if

1346
00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:12,810
we share things about some of our

1347
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:14,940
experiences you know we like to try and

1348
00:58:20,210 --> 00:58:17,490
help people recognize things and

1349
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:20,220
recognize symptoms of you know a

1350
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:22,530
potentially possessed er a person that

1351
00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:24,690
has an attachment so let's go there

1352
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,120
because I think there's that one a ton

1353
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:29,520
yes and a lot of people have okay

1354
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:32,490
because there's a lot of confusion and a

1355
00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:34,050
lot of people that we know that call

1356
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:35,790
themselves demonologist or really want

1357
00:58:38,510 --> 00:58:36,990
to help people they're out there in the

1358
00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:38,520
paranormal field they make the mistake

1359
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:41,070
of calling everything a demon because

1360
00:58:45,590 --> 00:58:43,290
they don't believe in ghosts they make

1361
00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:45,600
the mistake of saying that oh yes you

1362
00:58:50,510 --> 00:58:48,420
know I've got the right sage I've got

1363
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:50,520
the right music I've got the right chant

1364
00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:54,450
for you because I can fix this for you

1365
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:56,670
and it's gonna all go away and they have

1366
00:59:02,780 --> 00:58:59,160
a magic wand now but they don't take

1367
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:02,790
into encounters with people on a daily

1368
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:06,000
basis a lot of people and according to

1369
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:09,450
the Diagnostics for the psychology we're

1370
00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:10,680
not even talking psychiatry although

1371
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:12,270
psychiatry is a pseudoscience and I

1372
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:14,490
don't believe it in any way um better

1373
00:59:19,070 --> 00:59:17,010
living through medication only in the

1374
00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:19,080
cases of severe pain and severe severe

1375
00:59:24,580 --> 00:59:21,480
illness a lot of people are mental what

1376
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:24,590
do I mean by mental I'm mental okay

1377
00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:28,500
they're the degrees of mental shall we

1378
00:59:35,350 --> 00:59:31,020
say difficulty in dealing with daily

1379
00:59:40,330 --> 00:59:35,360
life is usually suspect 1 there are

1380
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:40,340
shall we say bipolar emotional swings

1381
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:43,970
behaviors that are self-depreciating

1382
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:48,000
self-effacing or harmful and now that

1383
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:50,790
could be anything from addiction to you

1384
00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:53,310
know you could have you know a case that

1385
00:59:58,609 --> 00:59:55,740
calls us and you know the

1386
01:00:00,440 --> 00:59:58,619
won't stop sleeping around and it's like

1387
01:00:02,210 --> 01:00:00,450
you know I think this person's possessed

1388
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:02,220
because it doesn't matter you know

1389
01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:05,310
they're obsessed with sex and then you

1390
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,230
come to find out that the person you

1391
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:09,359
know was molested from you know the age

1392
01:00:13,849 --> 01:00:12,000
of two to about twelve and they're

1393
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:13,859
acting out because they don't feel loved

1394
01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:15,210
because the person that they're with

1395
01:00:20,570 --> 01:00:18,270
isn't cuddling them and then smacking

1396
01:00:22,130 --> 01:00:20,580
them and beating them and raping them so

1397
01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:22,140
they're not receiving love from their

1398
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,880
partner that's what I'm talking about

1399
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:26,880
mental so this person may look and act

1400
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:28,260
like you know they're they're out of

1401
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:29,130
their mind

1402
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:31,380
they're possessed but there's so much

1403
01:00:37,820 --> 01:00:34,640
more that goes into a case folks that

1404
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:37,830
it's easy to say yes this person has an

1405
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:39,330
attachment you know they're they're

1406
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:41,369
talking mumbo-jumbo in their sleep and

1407
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:44,400
then all of a sudden they're normal are

1408
01:00:51,290 --> 01:00:46,890
they do they have a real attachment or

1409
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:51,300
do they have a mental stress a spiritual

1410
01:00:57,020 --> 01:00:53,570
wound that is going to take time to heal

1411
01:00:59,720 --> 01:00:57,030
more are they seeing things because of

1412
01:01:02,359 --> 01:00:59,730
the result of their dabbling with minor

1413
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:02,369
like witchcraft that are coming to visit

1414
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:04,410
them and it's causing them nightmares so

1415
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:08,030
they've got a combination of a wound and

1416
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:11,119
Invitational black evil little

1417
01:01:15,980 --> 01:01:13,430
cockroaches coming to visit them you

1418
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:15,990
know so for us to talk about some of the

1419
01:01:21,050 --> 01:01:18,630
creepiest creepiest horrific things you

1420
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:21,060
know all we can do is say hey people you

1421
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:22,260
know there's so many of them it's like

1422
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:25,680
where do we start you know we got Mary's

1423
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:29,970
of them one went over it was just

1424
01:01:33,740 --> 01:01:32,220
interviewer and then we're I was pretty

1425
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:33,750
sure by the phone interview and that's

1426
01:01:39,050 --> 01:01:37,140
what I really am glad you know with the

1427
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:39,060
help of Holy Spirit and so forth so over

1428
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:41,460
the years at that time we gotten to the

1429
01:01:45,050 --> 01:01:42,839
point we can get a lot of them figured

1430
01:01:46,430 --> 01:01:45,060
out on the phone and a lot of them can

1431
01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:46,440
be helped over the phone but not to you

1432
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:49,230
know not their true possessions so in

1433
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:50,730
this case we went over and there we're

1434
01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:52,500
just taking the intake sitting on the

1435
01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:54,599
porch no sipping lemonade or whatever it

1436
01:02:00,380 --> 01:01:56,430
was I still drink at Pepsi I hate that

1437
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:00,390
stuff I like was it a guy and girl comes

1438
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:02,730
here again the girl in question my son

1439
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:04,170
calls me in the phone I go around a

1440
01:02:08,329 --> 01:02:05,790
corner this is just because there's

1441
01:02:09,170 --> 01:02:08,339
examples of how it's funny how to double

1442
01:02:11,630 --> 01:02:09,180
does is little

1443
01:02:12,980 --> 01:02:11,640
even though this wheel and I go around

1444
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:12,990
the corner and he's let go we're gonna

1445
01:02:16,460 --> 01:02:14,730
have you know he's 16 welcome to who

1446
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:16,470
viewed for lunch and then I go back

1447
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:17,970
around the side of the house and she's

1448
01:02:23,180 --> 01:02:20,010
kicking 300-pound men offer her she's

1449
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:23,190
got a couple ft you know guys who live

1450
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,290
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1451
01:02:38,180 --> 01:02:33,839
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01:02:40,819 --> 01:02:38,190
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1455
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:45,210
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1456
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:47,010
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1457
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:49,530
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1458
01:02:54,670 --> 01:02:51,569
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1459
01:02:58,010 --> 01:02:54,680
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1460
01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:58,020
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1461
01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:59,010
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1462
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:01,079
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1474
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:30,299
father and a and uncle girl might have

1475
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:34,410
been 85 to 90 pounds into the fight you

1476
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:37,020
know and so we're battling this thing

1477
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:39,720
it occurred later to so that was one of

1478
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:41,280
the Simpsons every reveal but we already

1479
01:03:45,799 --> 01:03:44,490
had her turn on the phone and you got to

1480
01:03:47,030 --> 01:03:45,809
get that under control you just can't

1481
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:47,040
leave him there oh let me go wrote a

1482
01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:49,290
good priest in case of emergency break

1483
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:50,910
glass does one of the reasons why people

1484
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,339
shouldn't enter this stuff unless they

1485
01:03:57,319 --> 01:03:55,200
are prepared to do that spiritually when

1486
01:04:01,280 --> 01:03:57,329
you more say them it's not it's a

1487
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:01,290
psychological and spiritual battle if

1488
01:04:06,650 --> 01:04:03,510
when you guys tackle certain things like

1489
01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:06,660
I tackle at a distance I don't get my

1490
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:09,000
hands dirty like you guys do i i

1491
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:12,510
sometimes wish i did in the face of

1492
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:14,640
shadow people hat man and stuff but i'm

1493
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:15,720
like you know i don't think that's my

1494
01:04:21,319 --> 01:04:19,140
place to do that sort of thing but when

1495
01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:21,329
i get bad luck after giving someone

1496
01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:22,500
advice i over the

1497
01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:27,150
on the radio or by email I take it as a

1498
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:29,220
compliment Lana go I really ticked off

1499
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:30,930
the dark side this time like you know

1500
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:32,910
they hate my guts feelings are mutual

1501
01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:34,890
and I'm like well I must be doing

1502
01:04:38,780 --> 01:04:36,660
something right because uh yeah I just

1503
01:04:40,010 --> 01:04:38,790
know and sometimes the people that

1504
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:40,020
you're helping in like whoa things

1505
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:41,970
really heated up there for a second when

1506
01:04:45,859 --> 01:04:44,310
I sent this email to you and I'm like

1507
01:04:47,660 --> 01:04:45,869
take it as a compliment because I know

1508
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:47,670
their time is limited do you get that

1509
01:04:51,830 --> 01:04:49,950
yeah you gotta take that's why you have

1510
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:51,840
to say those daily prayers after you had

1511
01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:53,609
been on the phone or even email them

1512
01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:57,960
yeah about 12 years ago I had this other

1513
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:00,420
denomination camera what it was and he

1514
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:02,970
contacted me any email and says hey I

1515
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:05,310
have a group of prayer meeting friends

1516
01:05:10,220 --> 01:05:07,170
and they meet and there's about 15 of

1517
01:05:12,589 --> 01:05:10,230
them and we want to pray for cases did

1518
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:12,599
you work on iOS sure and so I gave him a

1519
01:05:17,089 --> 01:05:14,010
name of a possession case I was working

1520
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:17,099
on what to say his name's Tom yeah and

1521
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:19,710
they they began praying for him and I

1522
01:05:23,570 --> 01:05:21,150
didn't you know I didn't you know keep

1523
01:05:28,339 --> 01:05:23,580
in touch but I thought you know we

1524
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:28,349
contact him and see how you know I'll

1525
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:30,240
tell him how things are going on that

1526
01:05:34,099 --> 01:05:30,810
case

1527
01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:34,109
so I actually saw that uh he emailed me

1528
01:05:42,829 --> 01:05:39,480
and he's saying it's pretty sad he says

1529
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:42,839
there any have you ever heard of a

1530
01:05:46,220 --> 01:05:44,580
demonic spirit affecting people are just

1531
01:05:47,570 --> 01:05:46,230
praying for a case you know you're just

1532
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:47,580
praying for it you don't you're live in

1533
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:49,530
the same state or anything like that he

1534
01:05:53,810 --> 01:05:51,810
says because we're all everybody the

1535
01:05:55,970 --> 01:05:53,820
whole to prayer teams broken up all of

1536
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:55,980
them he says some of the relationships

1537
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,630
are you know not talking to each other

1538
01:06:02,270 --> 01:05:59,520
and thinking about separation and a

1539
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:02,280
car's broke down all of this stuff and I

1540
01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:05,849
was like oh my gosh it's ice tile are

1541
01:06:09,260 --> 01:06:08,790
you guys praying for yourselves domino

1542
01:06:12,050 --> 01:06:09,270
effect

1543
01:06:14,660 --> 01:06:12,060
I can't assume that anybody knows that

1544
01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:14,670
and just praying for me emailing and

1545
01:06:22,339 --> 01:06:20,190
meddling in any way okay yeah something

1546
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:22,349
I called picture prayers I wrote a book

1547
01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:24,089
called picture prison it's like one I

1548
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:26,460
don't know when I'm not praying honestly

1549
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:28,890
it's like I think all day long I feel

1550
01:06:32,359 --> 01:06:30,450
I'm in prayer and I'm in communication

1551
01:06:36,090 --> 01:06:32,369
with God so that's that's how I go about

1552
01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:36,100
my days I find it to be

1553
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:38,680
ah there's there's this phenomenon out

1554
01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:41,650
there that I'm really upset about and I

1555
01:06:46,620 --> 01:06:44,440
was taught that there is this time of

1556
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:46,630
innocence when you're a kid God's

1557
01:06:52,350 --> 01:06:48,490
protecting you until you become

1558
01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:52,360
confirmed and I have received many

1559
01:06:57,330 --> 01:06:55,510
emails from kids or people who were kids

1560
01:07:00,120 --> 01:06:57,340
when they were first approached by

1561
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:00,130
demonic beings and and really have had

1562
01:07:04,050 --> 01:07:02,050
like a lifetime of issues with these

1563
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:04,060
things what do you think is going on why

1564
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:05,890
are kids being targeted how are they

1565
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:09,610
able to gain access to them well the

1566
01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:12,850
number one access that children have is

1567
01:07:19,290 --> 01:07:15,660
through a lack of protection or

1568
01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:19,300
invitation by the adults because a child

1569
01:07:22,260 --> 01:07:20,740
is born into this world under the

1570
01:07:24,450 --> 01:07:22,270
protective wing of the mother or father

1571
01:07:27,570 --> 01:07:24,460
whoever has legal right or if the child

1572
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:27,580
has been abandoned whoever signs on to

1573
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:29,410
take you know adopts and has legal right

1574
01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:33,280
over that child now a lot of a lot of

1575
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:35,260
people have difficulty believing in

1576
01:07:40,460 --> 01:07:37,810
generational spirits a lot of places

1577
01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:40,470
call them generational curses children

1578
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:44,080
have if they're not baptized and if they

1579
01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:46,720
are not brought up and even sometimes if

1580
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:49,240
they are brought up in loving homes with

1581
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:51,970
loving support of adults their targets

1582
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:54,490
right away because they are so

1583
01:07:59,340 --> 01:07:57,520
vulnerable because of the sins of the

1584
01:08:02,220 --> 01:07:59,350
mom and dad that they are continuing to

1585
01:08:03,930 --> 01:08:02,230
choose it invites all these little

1586
01:08:05,550 --> 01:08:03,940
cockroaches to find out what they can

1587
01:08:07,410 --> 01:08:05,560
get away with and then they send to

1588
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:07,420
friends and call two more friends and

1589
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:10,000
the children you know being as

1590
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:12,310
inquisitive and sweet and innocent as

1591
01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:16,510
they are are very easily misled makes

1592
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:19,990
sense I it's so disgusting I've had

1593
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:22,480
people who Brittany as young as three

1594
01:08:29,310 --> 01:08:24,730
years old having memories of just being

1595
01:08:31,230 --> 01:08:29,320
battered by demons and I just I mean I

1596
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:31,240
don't even know what say him like that

1597
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:33,040
it's that's horrible it's like where is

1598
01:08:38,370 --> 01:08:36,070
the protection but where's that element

1599
01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:38,380
of innocence that I mean I don't know

1600
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:39,820
what the Catholic Church teaches but are

1601
01:08:44,010 --> 01:08:41,650
you taught that like they're under that

1602
01:08:46,599 --> 01:08:44,020
protective Spirit of God if it's a

1603
01:08:49,329 --> 01:08:46,609
certain a that came up recently

1604
01:08:52,899 --> 01:08:49,339
and it depends when they're baptized

1605
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:52,909
they become a member of you know the the

1606
01:09:01,329 --> 01:08:57,409
body of Christ the Holy Family is now

1607
01:09:02,590 --> 01:09:01,339
your Adam and Eve and so you there's a

1608
01:09:04,030 --> 01:09:02,600
head of protection with that and when

1609
01:09:06,729 --> 01:09:04,040
you use holy water and all those

1610
01:09:09,820 --> 01:09:06,739
sacraments they'll have more meaning but

1611
01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:09,830
yeah it is it's a strange thing it has

1612
01:09:12,970 --> 01:09:11,270
to do with the sins of the parents and

1613
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:12,980
baptism and all that stuff which you

1614
01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:15,679
know it it frees them of the sins of

1615
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:20,440
their parents into a fallen world Heidi

1616
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:24,290
and the the or the fallen world is the

1617
01:09:29,229 --> 01:09:26,960
Prince of the air and he's been given

1618
01:09:30,660 --> 01:09:29,239
dominion here people have to remember

1619
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:30,670
though the battle has already been won

1620
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,440
know for sure I always tell people

1621
01:09:37,809 --> 01:09:35,839
there's something to be said about the

1622
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:37,819
human potential the human spirit and God

1623
01:09:41,499 --> 01:09:39,409
because if these things could have taken

1624
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:41,509
us out a long time ago they would have

1625
01:09:50,169 --> 01:09:45,310
done it but they can't they cannot do it

1626
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:50,179
moving what's up the story about sister

1627
01:09:57,609 --> 01:09:54,320
Magdalene out across sea at an early age

1628
01:10:00,820 --> 01:09:57,619
desire to be so holy that she'd be you

1629
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,830
know honored and revered and venerated

1630
01:10:05,709 --> 01:10:02,719
by everybody in this life and that and

1631
01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:05,719
then the next and it turns out that

1632
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:07,460
later on it was revealed when she was

1633
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:10,550
discovered you know of her dark secret

1634
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:12,530
that she had made a deal with a double

1635
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:15,110
at the age of five so sometimes kids

1636
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,330
mature more into the age of reason

1637
01:10:20,530 --> 01:10:19,520
instead of just being by default seven

1638
01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:20,540
that's true

1639
01:10:28,930 --> 01:10:25,100
number seven is so true those they're in

1640
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:28,940
there there's there's so much that's

1641
01:10:32,770 --> 01:10:30,800
going on in this world I tell people

1642
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:32,780
it's not just a possibility you'll be

1643
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:35,320
met with something dark it's a threat

1644
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:39,530
it's yeah it's a threat it is so active

1645
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:41,090
people have to be on their P's and Q's

1646
01:10:45,970 --> 01:10:43,850
because this is this is not a joke this

1647
01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:45,980
is an everyday battle and I don't care

1648
01:10:50,859 --> 01:10:49,100
what color skin of this the things that

1649
01:10:54,669 --> 01:10:50,869
are presenting themselves to them if

1650
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:54,679
it's an alien being or or what not some

1651
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:56,570
of the aliens that are showing up are

1652
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:58,489
not the good guys in general the ones

1653
01:11:02,530 --> 01:11:00,560
that are being portrayed in the movies

1654
01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:02,540
their demonic why do they leave in the

1655
01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:04,550
name of Jesus if you say that why do

1656
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:08,750
they leave if they're not yeah what a

1657
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,290
bit run and turn kale yes that's just

1658
01:11:16,810 --> 01:11:14,480
right you know I wanted to address a

1659
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:16,820
question you asked earlier real quick no

1660
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:18,890
work shirt on time Oh

1661
01:11:22,300 --> 01:11:21,410
people that get into you know thinking

1662
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:22,310
well you know I'm gonna go investigate

1663
01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:25,010
and I'm gonna help people etc etc and

1664
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:28,040
then they talk about wow you know I came

1665
01:11:32,860 --> 01:11:30,530
home and you know this happened and my

1666
01:11:35,020 --> 01:11:32,870
my car got stolen and you know my wife

1667
01:11:36,490 --> 01:11:35,030
decided to leave me for my friend and

1668
01:11:38,020 --> 01:11:36,500
all this horrible stuff man I must be

1669
01:11:44,530 --> 01:11:38,030
doing the right thing man I must be

1670
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:44,540
working forgot no wrong wrong no that's

1671
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:46,310
the first that's one of the first signs

1672
01:11:53,020 --> 01:11:50,270
that a you have meddled into some place

1673
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:53,030
that you have no business meddling to

1674
01:11:57,130 --> 01:11:55,250
you do not either have the proper

1675
01:12:02,530 --> 01:11:57,140
authority to be sticking your nose in it

1676
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:02,540
or your prayers are the result of the

1677
01:12:07,870 --> 01:12:05,360
choices that you have made exactly if

1678
01:12:12,220 --> 01:12:07,880
you have not if you have not turned away

1679
01:12:14,590 --> 01:12:12,230
from past sins and made as best to your

1680
01:12:17,170 --> 01:12:14,600
ability renumeration to the people that

1681
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:17,180
you've offended that stuff follows you

1682
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:21,250
around like Linus with his dirty blanket

1683
01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:26,090
oh I can mess with this one okay your

1684
01:12:30,700 --> 01:12:28,760
guardian angels they don't stand down

1685
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:30,710
but God allows them for the

1686
01:12:35,610 --> 01:12:32,930
sanctification of your soul to come back

1687
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:35,620
to him to be messed with

1688
01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:38,000
so cherubs only people that they're

1689
01:12:44,410 --> 01:12:40,100
stubborn will go back to or go to them

1690
01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:44,420
for the first time what allows you to

1691
01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:47,420
come back yeah what do you guys think of

1692
01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:49,820
okay I don't know if you've seen this

1693
01:12:55,900 --> 01:12:53,000
this couple others like for videos or

1694
01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:55,910
something of this this this Dutch Dutch

1695
01:13:01,840 --> 01:12:58,550
businessman who has come forward who was

1696
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:01,850
part of this group of elite people who

1697
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:04,010
kind of manipulate the whole world

1698
01:13:08,110 --> 01:13:06,530
economy and he's like I couldn't go

1699
01:13:10,420 --> 01:13:08,120
through with what they were wanting me

1700
01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:10,430
to do and and then there's Bohemian

1701
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:13,160
Grove where the strange ritual that

1702
01:13:17,379 --> 01:13:14,510
takes place just out of sand

1703
01:13:19,899 --> 01:13:17,389
Cisco where all of these world power

1704
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:19,909
people go and and they they do this

1705
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:24,320
really strange ceremony that seems very

1706
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:27,110
st. mystic and in the and a satanic

1707
01:13:32,979 --> 01:13:30,320
groups around the country and I've met

1708
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:32,989
even ex-military guys who said that they

1709
01:13:38,169 --> 01:13:35,530
were told to participate in these

1710
01:13:40,810 --> 01:13:38,179
satanic rituals and in the Dutch

1711
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:40,820
businessmen as well he was told to to

1712
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,670
kill children and I'm like there's so

1713
01:13:47,950 --> 01:13:45,679
much that is indicating that our world

1714
01:13:51,870 --> 01:13:47,960
governments it seems so weird and

1715
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:51,880
far-fetched but are actually involved in

1716
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:55,610
satanic ritualistic things I have you

1717
01:14:00,459 --> 01:13:57,170
heard this and what do you think about

1718
01:14:04,089 --> 01:14:00,469
that I don't get political on this one

1719
01:14:07,060 --> 01:14:04,099
yet expertise said I was talking about

1720
01:14:08,649 --> 01:14:07,070
one of his three things you talked when

1721
01:14:11,950 --> 01:14:08,659
he talked politics he was talking about

1722
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:11,960
what people call conspiracy theories but

1723
01:14:16,419 --> 01:14:13,760
I watched he's been passed away for what

1724
01:14:19,149 --> 01:14:16,429
three years now fair yeah he's passed

1725
01:14:20,620 --> 01:14:19,159
away now and we see that all the stuff

1726
01:14:22,899 --> 01:14:20,630
he was talking about and the books he's

1727
01:14:25,029 --> 01:14:22,909
reading is all happening and then we're

1728
01:14:27,580 --> 01:14:25,039
all supposed to go oh oh it's just a

1729
01:14:29,649 --> 01:14:27,590
conspiracy theory it's like all that's

1730
01:14:31,930 --> 01:14:29,659
dead was right well I knew about the

1731
01:14:34,899 --> 01:14:31,940
Masons and all that stuff because when

1732
01:14:37,330 --> 01:14:34,909
we run into Freemason cases it has to be

1733
01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:37,340
Delaware they can't just be ignored it

1734
01:14:41,140 --> 01:14:39,500
you know there what are you finding with

1735
01:14:44,140 --> 01:14:41,150
Freemason cases what's going on with

1736
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:44,150
them you know the the Masons is also you

1737
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:45,730
know it's like this that this ancient

1738
01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:48,409
order you know evolved into what they

1739
01:14:53,770 --> 01:14:51,079
call the Freemasons now they put a claim

1740
01:14:56,830 --> 01:14:53,780
as though it's a Hiram's II builder you

1741
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:56,840
know of Solomon I mean you have Crowley

1742
01:15:00,220 --> 01:14:58,610
and these others that actually link him

1743
01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:00,230
through that called magic you're not

1744
01:15:06,850 --> 01:15:05,300
going back to the pot the the I can't

1745
01:15:10,180 --> 01:15:06,860
believe I just forgot the word I was

1746
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:10,190
gonna say Hakka probs like Kabbalah and

1747
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:12,409
I think about yeah that that gets kind

1748
01:15:18,089 --> 01:15:15,050
of deep with this ancient mystical magic

1749
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:18,099
side and but they it's the iana triangle

1750
01:15:22,029 --> 01:15:20,449
type symbol that goes back and actually

1751
01:15:25,089 --> 01:15:22,039
found the eye in a triangle triangle

1752
01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:25,099
symbol and Egyptian ruins is very old

1753
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:28,280
and they have an obsession with ancient

1754
01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:31,730
Egypt anyway as you know the cult of it

1755
01:15:35,410 --> 01:15:33,740
and in the Templars if you watch some of

1756
01:15:37,150 --> 01:15:35,420
the documentaries that are not you know

1757
01:15:37,690 --> 01:15:37,160
put forth by you know a church or

1758
01:15:40,330 --> 01:15:37,700
something

1759
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:40,340
they understand that the Templars really

1760
01:15:44,980 --> 01:15:42,110
were pagans pretending to be Christians

1761
01:15:47,530 --> 01:15:44,990
because they carved symbols pagan

1762
01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:47,540
symbols in the cells and there's it's

1763
01:15:51,490 --> 01:15:49,430
all matched up and they weren't tortured

1764
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:51,500
they were well to say they're

1765
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:53,120
interviewed by three priests who were

1766
01:15:59,500 --> 01:15:55,730
experts at psychology and you know very

1767
01:16:02,140 --> 01:15:59,510
pious but those anyway I think this can

1768
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:02,150
really branch off a lot but the

1769
01:16:09,310 --> 01:16:06,800
Freemasons is the true story seems to go

1770
01:16:10,780 --> 01:16:09,320
back to the great grandson of King Herod

1771
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:10,790
you know the one who murdered the

1772
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:12,890
innocent babies trying to kill Jesus and

1773
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:15,410
they were tired of seeing the the

1774
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:17,210
Christian movement grow I think it was

1775
01:16:24,460 --> 01:16:20,320
like 60 ad we're on a time to st. John

1776
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:24,470
you know the young st. John around the

1777
01:16:29,410 --> 01:16:28,400
time he died that the population was the

1778
01:16:30,670 --> 01:16:29,420
more and more increasing to be

1779
01:16:33,490 --> 01:16:30,680
Christians so they called him dad

1780
01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:33,500
impostor Jesus and that's why if this Da

1781
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:35,150
Vinci Code he was a member of what was

1782
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:36,560
called a new temple art which were

1783
01:16:40,330 --> 01:16:38,450
Freemasons again if he put something in

1784
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:40,340
the paintings that someone discovered

1785
01:16:44,140 --> 01:16:42,710
later on he did it because he secretly

1786
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:44,150
believed here if you pretended to be

1787
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:46,970
Catholic that Jesus was an impostor but

1788
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:48,890
that's where it began and the Temple of

1789
01:16:53,170 --> 01:16:50,570
Jerusalem was the name of it so they

1790
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:53,180
used the cover of a Jewish Church Jewish

1791
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:55,690
temple to do their meetings and all that

1792
01:17:00,400 --> 01:16:58,640
if you go - right you'll actually see

1793
01:17:02,190 --> 01:17:00,410
the upside-down inverted pentagram with

1794
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:02,200
a circle around it on the back of the

1795
01:17:07,780 --> 01:17:05,090
the throne or whatever chair that is at

1796
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:07,790
the the Grandmaster sits and so in some

1797
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:10,130
levels they don't even hide it oh it's

1798
01:17:17,260 --> 01:17:14,030
so scary there's so much it's like uh

1799
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:17,270
the things that are there coming forward

1800
01:17:20,710 --> 01:17:19,010
and it's just like all connecting and

1801
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:20,720
making sense and whistleblowers are

1802
01:17:24,370 --> 01:17:22,610
stepping forward saying they're killing

1803
01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:24,380
children they're sacrificing them I'm

1804
01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:27,320
like and and somebody that I met that's

1805
01:17:30,250 --> 01:17:28,790
on the down-low that doesn't work for

1806
01:17:31,900 --> 01:17:30,260
the government anymore I said I couldn't

1807
01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:31,910
sacrifice people anymore

1808
01:17:37,390 --> 01:17:35,780
it's all satanic and like Wow what what

1809
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:37,400
are we talking about here that it's

1810
01:17:43,970 --> 01:17:41,610
scary ID they're doing it every daily

1811
01:17:47,899 --> 01:17:43,980
in abortion clinics and they're selling

1812
01:17:50,330 --> 01:17:47,909
the baby's body parts something that is

1813
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:50,340
just like so horrific and so horrendous

1814
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:52,350
and it's such an unpopular topic nobody

1815
01:17:56,660 --> 01:17:54,300
wants to talk about it but heck if you

1816
01:18:00,740 --> 01:17:56,670
find a single cell on Mars its life you

1817
01:18:01,970 --> 01:18:00,750
know let's make sure we put in a petri

1818
01:18:06,350 --> 01:18:01,980
dish and get it to grow

1819
01:18:08,510 --> 01:18:06,360
you are so true you know question for

1820
01:18:10,129 --> 01:18:08,520
you as the topic that I cover and I know

1821
01:18:12,890 --> 01:18:10,139
that you guys I've had some

1822
01:18:15,770 --> 01:18:12,900
communications there groups online with

1823
01:18:19,459 --> 01:18:15,780
Facebook how do you categorize the Hat

1824
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,469
men what have you come across and the

1825
01:18:23,180 --> 01:18:21,600
people that have experienced them how do

1826
01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:23,190
you categorize the Hat man what he's up

1827
01:18:30,590 --> 01:18:29,310
to and who he is hat man I think I've

1828
01:18:33,649 --> 01:18:30,600
been thinking about this for a long time

1829
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:33,659
like you have yeah we find that period

1830
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:35,850
costumes outfits or whatever because we

1831
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:37,440
have the ones that are shaped like Oscar

1832
01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:41,280
you know this trophy not that Grouch and

1833
01:18:44,959 --> 01:18:43,260
you just see head and shoulders you

1834
01:18:47,419 --> 01:18:44,969
don't see you know a choleric off a

1835
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:47,429
hairline you don't see long hair when

1836
01:18:50,780 --> 01:18:48,960
you see a lot of them and then we

1837
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:50,790
suspect it might be humans but I think

1838
01:18:55,010 --> 01:18:52,409
when they're darker in a dark room they

1839
01:18:56,959 --> 01:18:55,020
are human minions of you know Satan

1840
01:18:59,570 --> 01:18:56,969
wordid Anton LaVey go when he passed

1841
01:19:02,060 --> 01:18:59,580
away and entered into the next life he's

1842
01:19:03,919 --> 01:19:02,070
helping his demonic masters bring down

1843
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:03,929
probably you know relatives that came

1844
01:19:08,450 --> 01:19:06,810
from his family tree or in the house or

1845
01:19:09,740 --> 01:19:08,460
temple that he worked in you know so

1846
01:19:11,959 --> 01:19:09,750
they're working behind the scenes

1847
01:19:13,729 --> 01:19:11,969
they're not going to hell at this time

1848
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:13,739
they're getting pulled directly out or

1849
01:19:18,290 --> 01:19:16,409
never went there with but yeah I think

1850
01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:18,300
that you know I said though you know

1851
01:19:21,919 --> 01:19:20,280
what would we see if we saw the Three

1852
01:19:23,660 --> 01:19:21,929
Stooges wheeze three three men you see

1853
01:19:26,379 --> 01:19:23,670
curly with his bowler hat you know and

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he's hair these hats these uh fedoras I

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that some of them has to do with period

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hats you know but you would be more

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suspecting if it had something to do

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with some dark cult you know like the

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Hat man you remember the the Voodoo they

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they wear a top hat now you might be

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relating you know it's a case that is

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actually has Voodoo involved or it could

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be something with the people involved

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aren't cursed by voodoo as much as maybe

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a member of the family was you know

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there

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:19:58,350
Aaron swore maybe wine or whatever maybe

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01:20:04,580 --> 01:20:02,370
it was the glowing red eyes when he does

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show his eyes the glowing red eyes yeah

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that's a little as a cold anytime you

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see growing glowing red eyes on it

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that's as it's a cult and that will be a

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voodoo some of the darker black magic

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satanism not necessarily what people

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call Wicca and that sort of thing

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introduce himself sometimes as scratch

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the the Old Norse term for the devil ant

1878
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yeah Danny yeah we could talk longer

1879
01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:33,300
about this talk yeah disturbing stuff

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and Wow does he hate me yeah it's been a

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negative thing every time except for the

1882
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:42,180
rare case or it was it seemed like a

1883
01:20:45,710 --> 01:20:43,560
ghost but down once one and a head

1884
01:20:47,570 --> 01:20:45,720
period close on and it was just you

1885
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:47,580
weren't seeing it really very it wasn't

1886
01:20:52,580 --> 01:20:49,410
pitch-black and silhouettes so much even

1887
01:20:56,150 --> 01:20:52,590
it wasn't darker the dark room when it

1888
01:20:57,410 --> 01:20:56,160
was we consider a ghost you don't look

1889
01:20:58,610 --> 01:20:57,420
like yourself when you're helping the

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minions unless they're having you

1891
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:01,020
portray that masquerade like oh I'm a

1892
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:05,850
child who misses his mommy we yeah well

1893
01:21:08,750 --> 01:21:07,410
we've got less than a minute I want to

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give you guys a chance to put out your

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01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:10,620
information if you got any events going

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on or how people can reach out to you

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01:21:18,620 --> 01:21:16,770
alright YouTube we have our our archives

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of our show the real deals is on

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that's also how you can find us on

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check that out later on and of course

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like they right you can't well I wanna

1911
01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:51,330
thank you guys for coming on I've gotta

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:53,400
wrap this show this went fast there is

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01:21:56,270 --> 01:21:55,050
so much to talk about but you to hold

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the line so we could chat a little bit

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01:22:00,680 --> 01:21:58,500
more after the show here but thank you

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so much for coming on fara can Thank You

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Heidi

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there's a lot of fun let's go god bless

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you too all right you guys will come to

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weird we're here good night everybody

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